Oh My Goodness
Jun. 15th, 2004 12:22 amWhy is my fandom so crazy? Why?
On 4.10
Why are people hating on Justin. Why? Because he's talking to Mikey?
Let us set a few things straight. Justin is not mad at Mikey anymore. Brian was never mad at Mikey in the first place. In fact, the only people still mad at Mikey are the crazy, CRAZY fans.
STOP BEING CRAZY!
If Justin wants to talk to Mikey about Brian's erectile disfunction, it's because Mikey is still Brian's oldest friend, and you know what? I'm totally cool with that. I'm sure Brian will be cool with it too as soon as he stops queening over the fact that he has issues getting hard. (BTW I'm positive when Brian said "Don't say anything" he meant "Dont' say anything right now" and not "Don't say anything ever to anyone, OMG!!!!!")
In the end, all will be well. Brian Kinney will fuck again. And when he has problems getting it up, it will be the return of toppy!Justin. Fun, fun for everyone. Syd -- stop doing testicular cancer research. You're going to traumatize yourself and me in the process. That Indian doctor guy assured us in 4.07 that Brian would not lose the ability to fuck, so I'm sure if he's having issues it's at least mostly psychological.
And if you don't trust Indian doctors, trust that neutering Brian would, in effect, neuter the show, and no producer would be that stupid.
That's all I have to say on the subject.
on 4.09
<333 the parallel conversations of Debbie and Emmett at Vic's grave. Cowlip, you have a sick sense of humor.
Mel, I feel so sorry for you. At least you're temporarily happy in your ignorant bliss.
On Anthony -- my first thought? "Ben, what are you thinking?!? Mikey is way better looking then him and his beady eyes!" My second thought? "On my God, tell me I did not just defend Mikey's physical attractiveness."
Ben: OMG someone hates my fic!
Ben: I will never write again!!!!!!!!
...this reminds me of...someone...
Hunter? I still want to shag you. Don't ask me why. I just do.
Debbie, I'm sorry you got rejected. But at least you're not crazy anymore.
Thea. You have really good hair.
Oh, Brian. Why does he have to look so hot when he is angry and in pain? I just want to hug him! And then perhaps molest him a little bit. He's weak -- he probably couldn't stop me.
Emmett, I love you. And you have pretty eyes. And Darren looks very suave in that dark gray shirt.
I love you, tiny Justin!!!
Football guy. Your seduction methods are...well, lucky for you, Emmett's easy.
Also? I really, really love you, tiny Justin!!!!!!!!1!!@!2!!!
On 4.10
Why are people hating on Justin. Why? Because he's talking to Mikey?
Let us set a few things straight. Justin is not mad at Mikey anymore. Brian was never mad at Mikey in the first place. In fact, the only people still mad at Mikey are the crazy, CRAZY fans.
STOP BEING CRAZY!
If Justin wants to talk to Mikey about Brian's erectile disfunction, it's because Mikey is still Brian's oldest friend, and you know what? I'm totally cool with that. I'm sure Brian will be cool with it too as soon as he stops queening over the fact that he has issues getting hard. (BTW I'm positive when Brian said "Don't say anything" he meant "Dont' say anything right now" and not "Don't say anything ever to anyone, OMG!!!!!")
In the end, all will be well. Brian Kinney will fuck again. And when he has problems getting it up, it will be the return of toppy!Justin. Fun, fun for everyone. Syd -- stop doing testicular cancer research. You're going to traumatize yourself and me in the process. That Indian doctor guy assured us in 4.07 that Brian would not lose the ability to fuck, so I'm sure if he's having issues it's at least mostly psychological.
And if you don't trust Indian doctors, trust that neutering Brian would, in effect, neuter the show, and no producer would be that stupid.
That's all I have to say on the subject.
on 4.09
<333 the parallel conversations of Debbie and Emmett at Vic's grave. Cowlip, you have a sick sense of humor.
Mel, I feel so sorry for you. At least you're temporarily happy in your ignorant bliss.
On Anthony -- my first thought? "Ben, what are you thinking?!? Mikey is way better looking then him and his beady eyes!" My second thought? "On my God, tell me I did not just defend Mikey's physical attractiveness."
Ben: OMG someone hates my fic!
Ben: I will never write again!!!!!!!!
...this reminds me of...someone...
Hunter? I still want to shag you. Don't ask me why. I just do.
Debbie, I'm sorry you got rejected. But at least you're not crazy anymore.
Thea. You have really good hair.
Oh, Brian. Why does he have to look so hot when he is angry and in pain? I just want to hug him! And then perhaps molest him a little bit. He's weak -- he probably couldn't stop me.
Emmett, I love you. And you have pretty eyes. And Darren looks very suave in that dark gray shirt.
I love you, tiny Justin!!!
Football guy. Your seduction methods are...well, lucky for you, Emmett's easy.
Also? I really, really love you, tiny Justin!!!!!!!!1!!@!2!!!
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:29 am (UTC)We're just nuts (pun intended), aren't we? LOL
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:41 am (UTC)Yes. It must be catching.
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Date: 2004-06-15 09:47 am (UTC)Anyway, I can tell you for a fact that I really hate it when I feel like I **know** a character, and all of a sudden, they do something (in canon, no less!) that I can't fathom as reasonable, or IC, at all. *If* Justin does this (and notice, I did say "if"), then it will, in my mind's eye, be completely OOC.
Of course, characterizations are highly subjective. What I might see as OOC might be considered IC in your opinion. This is also something that is important to keep in mind. A television show, like any media, isn't so black and white that it can be construed wholly on a true or false scale. For me, what might be true, might be false for you.
Anyway, thanks for letting me share my thoughts. I know you might think that some of us have gotten carried away, and yes, we might well have, but it's all in the name of fun and entertainment.
I hope. :)
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 12:43 am (UTC)Sometimes I look at my friends list, and it hurts my head.
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 12:46 am (UTC):((
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:48 am (UTC)But you must ask yourself, why are people being crazy about the previews? I mean, they do not tell all. They do not show all that lead up to the coversation and such. Justin still loves his Brian even if he does tell Mikey about Brian.
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:58 am (UTC)As far as I can tell, Justin tells Mikey *because* he loves Brian. Mikey knows better how to deal with Brian, so of course Justin wants his take on things.
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Date: 2004-06-15 01:31 am (UTC)I would be more surprised if Justin didn't tell mikey. He told mikey about the cancer, something that brian didn't want anyone to know, yet no one got upset over that.
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Date: 2004-06-15 08:00 am (UTC)Syd, your brain is so scary.
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Date: 2004-06-15 10:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 03:15 am (UTC)Plus, people are completely jumping to conclusions, you are right. It's very /:)
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Date: 2004-06-15 03:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 03:23 am (UTC)Yeah, I don't see that there's that vast a difference between the two disclosures.
*sigh*
I can't deal with people today.
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Date: 2004-06-15 03:29 am (UTC)There, there. At least you can click people off in fandom/online.
There needs to be a remote for RL, so you can turnoff/delete people.
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Date: 2004-06-15 03:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 03:41 am (UTC)one day I will grow a back-bone and friends-lock and only friend a sane amount of people.
Like 10
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Date: 2004-06-15 03:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 04:00 am (UTC)I have purged myself. I feel clean again.
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Date: 2004-06-15 04:01 am (UTC)I should get stoned.
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Date: 2004-06-15 04:08 am (UTC)Pot only makes me more bitchy about things. Drinking though, drinking seems to make me happy and bubbly.
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Date: 2004-06-15 04:22 am (UTC)If I drink in this mood I will end up leaving semi-abusive messages on random people's voicemails, and not remembering it in the morning.
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Date: 2004-06-15 04:28 am (UTC)It's even funnier when you actually get someone on the line vs voicemail.
Come on, vent. You know you want to *peer pressure*
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Date: 2004-06-15 04:29 am (UTC)I'm writing fic instead. Not quite as therapeutic, but at least it takes my mind off the whole thing.
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:42 am (UTC)Huh, you say that a lot. ^_^
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 01:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 01:07 am (UTC)Thank you, thank you, thank you. Given that the whole thing started over a what- 15 to 20 second preview and the Justin part was only like- 3 seconds I can't justify the hate. We don't know what's going to happen or what's even going on, so why worry? It's not like we can change it now.
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Date: 2004-06-15 01:15 am (UTC)I felt I ought to say something.
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Date: 2004-06-15 01:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 01:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 01:43 am (UTC)So I'll just slap the crazy label on my forehead and admit that if C/L has Justin discussing Brian's sexual difficulties with Michael (or anyone, really it has nothing to do with it being Michael), I'll find it OOC and get annoyed.
Same way I got annoyed by Mel the feminist lesbian giving Lindsay the OOC advice to use her feminine wiles on Sam.
I'm too mellow to really flip out about anything. But it is all part of the wonderful, wacky drama of fandom for people to speculate like mad and flip out over eensy weensy clips taken out of context.
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Date: 2004-06-15 01:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 03:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 03:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-15 09:32 am (UTC)I makes perfect sense to me that Justin will want Michaels advice. After all, the last time Brian withdrew from him and tried to alienate him, Michael was the one who figured out why and helped Justin figure out how to deal with it.
I didn't really think Mel was being out of character either in her advice to Lindsay. She might be a lesbian feminist, but she's a wife and a working mother first. She had to do what she viewed as a compromise of integrity in order to be a good lawyer. It makes sense in my head that she would tell her wife to do the same if it was *that* important to her job. Obviously, Lindsay seemed to think it was that important, because she went through with it.
But then, I tend to disagree most of the time when people say they think something in a show is OOC. It takes a *lot* for me to view something as OOC, because my experience with the world is that even the most predictable people can be unpredictabe when forced to deal with unfamiliar situations, and that people sometimes do weird shit for no good reason.
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Date: 2004-06-15 03:35 pm (UTC)However, I do agree with you that in general it is IC for Justin to confide in Michael about Brian.
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Date: 2004-06-15 06:03 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-06-15 12:13 pm (UTC)no subject
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