Vid: You Know You're Right

[lierdumoa]

Title: You Know You're Right
Artist: Nirvana
Fandom: Supernatural
Summary: "Have you got that low an opinion of yourself? Are you that screwed in the head?" ~ Bobby, to Dean; ep. 2.22 All Hell Breaks Loose II
Crosspostings: here @ vidding, here @ supernaturalvid
A/N: Thanks to morgandawn and sockkpuppett for their invaluable beta work. Thanks also to the McDoñas. Y'all know who you are. This vid premiered at escapade_con 2008.
Extras: specs & effects

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Lyrics


(lyrics websites differ greatly in their interpretations; here is mine)

I will never bother you
I will never promise to
I will never follow you
I will never bother you

Never speak a word again
I will crawl away for good

I will move away from here
You won't be afraid of fear
No thought was put in to this n'
Always knew it would come to this

Things have never been so swell
I have never failed to fail

Pain x 3
You Know your Right x 3

I'm so warm and calm inside
I no longer have to hide
Let’s talk about someone else
Sterling sliver (be)gins to melt

Nothing really bothers her
She just wants to love herself

I will move away from here
You won't be afraid of fear
No thought was put into this
Always knew to come like this

Things have never been so swell
I have never failed to fail

Pain x 5
You know Your Right x 5 [edited; originally x 17]
Pain

Comments

[sorrelchestnut.livejournal.com]

Oh my, that was fantastic. Kinetic, dark, tense, angry, desperate. I don't think I blinked once the entire time.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

::hands you visine::

That's pretty much exactly the feel I was going for, so yay!

[rhoboat.livejournal.com]

Here from vidding. I don't watch SPN, but I have to say that your vid was intensely cool. :D

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Why thank you! I had no idea if the vid would have any appeal for non-viewers or if it would just be too context-heavy, so I'm really glad it worked for you.

[bionic.livejournal.com]

holy.....

There was so much great movement, and your editing is like, mind-blowing. I love the quick cut-ins of various scenes and the choppy effect it created (not sure what the technical term is!). Awesome awesome video, so stylish, absolutely wonderful.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Hee! I don't know the technical term either. I'm a total movement nazi when I'm vidding, so I'm glad that came through. Glad you liked it!

[danegen.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad I saw this before heading to bed, but I've been awake for about 24 hours, so I hope I'm somewhat coherent.

This song punches me in the gut anyway, but using it for Dean is perfect. I got choked up several times. I love the flashes cutting through, especially the repetition of his face in In My Time. Great choices for "no thought was put into this." And the image of Dean in the backseat at the end--totally broke my heart.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

The gut punch is exactly what I was going for. I believe my exact words to my beta's were, "I want people to leave my vid feeling like they just got punched in the face."

I waited years to find the right subject for this song. The lyrics read like a suicide note. What character could possibly be screwed up enough to vid to that? And then there was Dean.

Thanks for commenting!

[maygra.livejournal.com]

ah, hon. You never cease to amaze me. Excellently, excellently done.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

::preens::

Thanks.

:)

[nonsenseprocess.livejournal.com]

This is so, so spectacular, and such a great use of the song, and - there are all these things I can say but, oh, oh man. At 2:16, when Dean brings Sam back and you turned his eyes black. And - I had to keep watching it, thinking, 'did that actually happen in the episode? Because it didn't, but that looks flawless.' And I don't know! Maybe someone will tell me it did happen, or rather that you cut in footage from Sam's possession episode, except that - that was just you, wasn't it? Oh my god that's creepy and amazing.

Other bits that stick out like crazy for me are when you intercut Jake's knife in the gravel with Dean burying the box at the crossroads, Dean looking at his mom during the djinn vision cutting back to a close-up of him spitting out blood after he stabs himself in the heart on 'felt so swell', and John's possessed self flickering in and out while he tells Dean to watch over Sam (while Dean screaming as the YED thrusts his soul back into his body flickers in and out, too).

And Dean pulling away from Sam on the bed, which shifts to Dean watching over Sam's dead body - and tiny Dean leaning forward to kiss baby Sam, which shifts into baby Sam unhappily swallowing demon blood, and - the beginning! With Jake killing Sam intercut with the Impala being hit!

Oh, this entire vid is just so, so spectacular and dark and clever and creepy and I keep watching it over and over. Amazing, subtle use of effects, too. Jeez, the black eyes, I can't get over that.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Hee! I masked out the whites of Sam's eyes in Adobe Premiere. I'm glad I could leave you wondering. I knew when I started making this that too many frills would just detract from the vid, so any effects would need to look like part of the original footage.

The coughing blood was one of my favorite bits. Mommy leaves, Dean bleeds. The shot of Dean screaming as he regains his life is, for me, the whole vid in a nutshell. From Dean's perspective, life=agony (or perhaps, given the lyrics, it would be more appropriate to say life=paiiiiiiiiiin).

I like to think the intercutting of Sam's death with the crash at the beginning of the vid serves as the thesis statement. The rest of the vid goes on to explain how the latter event led to the former.

Thank you so much for the detailed feedback!

[laivine.livejournal.com]

Wow, I loved that. Dean's kiss into Sam waking up with the demon eyes was a great transition. You did a beautiful job of reconstructing Dean's deconstruction in Season 2.

Thanks for sharing it!

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Thanks for watching it!

The line was "I have never failed to fail" so I thought that particular effect was the best way to illustrate the big question: has he really saved Sam?

Dean breaks so pretty, doesn't he?

[boom-queen.livejournal.com]

Wow. That was really fabulous. Great movement and energy--I'll definitely echo the other comment that called it 'kinetic'. And some of the visual parallels you created are just amazing for Dean--the images of him carrying baby Sam and looking over into his crib juxtaposed with Sam's resurrection, the images of the knife in the mud and Dean burying the box at the crossroads, the images of his parents. It's just all tied together amazingly well and it makes for a both angsty AND kick-ass vid.

[boom-queen.livejournal.com]

PS: I rec's this over on spnvidrecs :)

[acidpenguin46.livejournal.com]

That was fantastic. It was just so dark and atmospheric . The editing was great too, I particularly loved the bit with Mary over the line "things have never been so swell" and the intercutting of Dean making the deal, and Sam waking up evil. Loved it!

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Poor Dean. Everybody leaves. Or turns evil. Or turns evil and then leaves. I'm so glad you enjoyed the vid!

[the-muppet.livejournal.com]

Firstly, my apologies if this isn't the first time I've left you this comment.

Just wondering if you'd be interested in being listed as an editor on The Impala (http://the-impala.co.uk/), a new Supernatural vidding archive which _gater_ and I have set up to run alongside our existing Stargate vidding archive Kawoosh! (http://www.kawoosh.co.uk/)?

If you would, you can submit your vid HERE (http://the-impala.co.uk/submit/).

We do, however, have a hosting policy... which you can read about HERE (http://community.livejournal.com/the_kawoosher/25189.html), so if you don't already use your own webspace or one of the approved links, you'd need to upload to one of the links mentioned in order to be listed. This list has been drawn up by existing editors on our current SG database for their longevity and reliability, which is why we currently only accept and list links from one of the listed sites.

We also have an LJ comm running alongside the site if you're interested: impala_kaz2y5

If you're not interested, that's no problem, just let me know and I'll make sure to try not to bother you again - thanks =)

[talitha78.livejournal.com]

I agree with the comments above: the fake-out with the Sam "demon eyes" was really, really cool. Great vid!

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Thanks! It was tedious, but worth it. I'm glad you enjoyed.

:)

[scalesandfins.livejournal.com]

I've already told you this a billion times, but then I watch this vid again, and every time my jaw kinda drops.

Okay, how can I say this? In a pretentious ass-long sentence! Here it is:

I know you, so clearly I am not *surprised*, but more like always really, really impressed that you were ballsy enough to vid footage of Dean Winchester raising a shotgun to his face to Kurt Cobain's suicide-note song, and ambitious and talented and tenacious enough to pull it off in a vid (that does indeed feel like being punched in the face) while doing more than justice to both sources.

Because seriously? Shotgun to the head? To *Nirvana*? Who *DOES* that? YOU DO THAT. AND YOU DO IT BRILLIANTLY. Because yes, Dean is the person this song was waiting to be vidded to.

Hearts. And uh, punched-to-the-face.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

::laffs:: Yes, well, I guess it's easier to have balls when nobody's ever told you you're not supposed to have them. It's nice to be in a fandom where the show itself is not afraid to go there. Kripke made a show about the anti-christ. On the CW. Who does *THAT*?

[yourlibrarian]

Quick moving, intense vid! What intrigued me too is how reversing the frames in a few scenes made them seem new somehow (which is especially useful when some scenes are used often).

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

The newness factor was a happy accident. I wasn't thinking in those terms as I was vidding (though I'll keep it in mind for the future). Most of the flipping was done so as to better lead the viewer's eye from one clip to the next.

[thirdsouthobbi.livejournal.com]

That was beautiful. It really was. That's always been one of my favorite Nirvana songs, so I was a little hesitant to watch (someone butchered this one song I loved with a HORRIBLY edited video, filled with effects that made my eyes hurt), but this was amazing. I love that you used CLEAR clips, instead of the ones available online for download, and the demon eyes creeped me out omg. That was awesome :D

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

I know exactly how you feel. This is the last recorded song before Kurt Cobain died, and the lyrics read like a suicide note. Ostentatious effects would just cheapen it. I knew it was a Dean vid back in season 1 and then waited a whole season, fingers crossed, to see if the show would actually give me the right emotional arc for the song. I'm of the firm belief that you don't screw around with Nirvana.

[coripixie.livejournal.com]

oh man. this was just amazing and flawless and wonderful. i've watched this twice so far and i've seen so many subtle beautiful moments and it excites me to know that there are more to pick out with each viewing.
yeah. i'm sort of just flailing in joy and i can't think of anything intelligent to say. awesome, awesome job.
as someone deeply interested in editing and curious about vidding, i can definitely say that this is the type of vid that i would aspire to.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the wonderful compliments. I always hope my vids will be the sort of vids to encourage multiple viewings, so it's great to hear. I'm so glad to have inspired you! If you ever need help vidding on windows, drop me a line.

:)

[counteragent.livejournal.com]

Incredibly stylish...awesome!

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the compliment!

[ejayye.livejournal.com]

I plan to rewatch this again and again. Very intense. Well done.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Oh, yay! Just the reaction I wanted.

[justabi.livejournal.com]

So the thing is, I know I already flailed about and fangirled you for this, I know I did. And yet, I don't seem to have commented.

*flails wildly and fangirls you*

Soooo good.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Heee! You got it early on mcposse. But thanks again! No one could object to getting lavish praise twice.

[untitleddemo.livejournal.com]

That was EXCELLENT.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Aww, thank you!

[delphinapterus.livejournal.com]

That was very lovely to watch.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad you enjoyed it. :)

[myniamh.livejournal.com]

Wow.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Hee! Thanks.

[giandujakiss.livejournal.com]

Just wanted to let you know that your vid was rec'd at crack_impala - it's excellent, thank you so much!

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Oh, cooool! Thanks for telling me. I'm glad you liked it.

Well, well...

[girlguidejones.livejournal.com]

Those hours of conversation in LAX, months ago...man, did they pay off.

This is really, really powerful. The small effects you did look like part of the footage itself, and I seriously had to *think* to remember what did and didn't happen in the show. The repeating image of Dean with the gun to his chin is chilling and heartbreaking. I don't save a lot of vids on my hard drive; this is one of them.

Awesome, amazing job.

Re: Well, well...

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Yay! After all I couldn't stop talking about it I was worried I would just overhype it and horribly disappoint you. I'm really glad the gun to the head scene worked for you. It's one of my favorite moments.

It's funny. The effects seem so obvious to me because I went through so much tedious labor trying to make them subtle. I'm happy I got people wondering whether Sam's eyes really turned black in that scene -- not because I wanted to trick anyone, but because I think for a moment I got people to feel an inkling of what Dean must have felt when he asked himself, "Did my brother really come back 100% Sam?"

[quiet-rebel.livejournal.com]

This video makes me insanely happy. I mean, the subject isn't all nice and sunny, but literally, I was listening to this song today and thinking it would make a great SPN video and LOOK! I found one!

It rocked. You really captured some strong emotions esp. with the "Pain" chorus. I liked that you repeated some of the images (like Dean putting the gun under his chin, Sam getting stabbed, Dean crying out, etc.); repeating it makes it stick in your head more.

I like the flashes you used too. It made everything really visual and it goes really well with the song's beat and rhythm.

And the summary fits perfectly with what this video was trying to say.

Great job! And thank you for making a video this song!

[quiet-rebel.livejournal.com]

Oh, and reading through the comments, I forgot to mention the part where you made Sam's eyes turn black! That was genius!

[archerstar.livejournal.com]

Wow, that was an amazingly good vid. I'm snagging the downloadable version so I watch it over and over and over, because it is seriously that awesome. The editing blows me away.

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

Aw, I'm so glad you liked it! And I'm also glad you're downloading it, because I think my imeem upload has a framerate problem that's affecting the timing on some of the flashes.