Aaaaah...stuff
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lierdumoaFirst order of business:
Fandom Rant -- Standards of Propriety
You know, I've never been overly concerned with discussing politics in my livejournal. For one thing, I don't like discussing politics. For another, I find myself basically preaching to the choir. This is fun sometimes, but most of the time -- I mean, what's the point?
So I don't argue politics -- at least not world politics. I can, however, argue fandom politics, because I devote more of my free time to fandom than to the real world anyway.
I spent a bit too much time on Fandom Wank this morning looking at the various kerfuffles. I realized that a lot of fandom wanks arise from people taking the wrong things seriously. Slash fic. Sexually explicit fic. Sexual fetish fic. Rape fic. Pedophilia fic. Bestiality. Bible!slash fic. People having sex with inanimate objects. Various combinations of the aforementioned. Dude -- it's the fucking internet. Of course people are bound to write about this stuff.
But consider, before you flame someone for writing something that offends you -- are you actually accomplishing anything, or are you just venting? And if you honestly want to have an author listen to you, you must realize that the instant you start calling people disgusting perverts they stop listening to you altogether. That's how it goes in fandom. Writers don't care if you tell them they're perverted. Chances are, they're just doing it for the shock value anyway. Writers don't take you seriously if you call them morally corrupt, because as far as they're concerned, what they write is fictional and has very little bearing on the real world.
And they're right, for the most part. Fanfiction really *doesn't* have much bearing on the real world. It's such a fringe thing, for one. Consider that most of the people who write rape fic don't support rape, nor do they have any desire to enact the sex scenes they write in real life. The same goes for pedophilia fic, and for bestiality fic, etc. I know that seems strange, but a lot of the people who write about Snape fucking thirteen year old Harry don't actually want to fuck thirteen year olds.
And frankly, writing is cathartic. Revealing one fantasies in writing is relatively harmless. Fantasies themselves are for the most part relatively harmless. Most people would agree that this kind of writing isn't in very good taste. Me personally, I don't give a shit either way. Free speech is a beautiful thing, as long as some psycho doesn't start thinking it's a good idea to stalk me. Highly unlikely, that.
So you can yell at people. You might manage to kick them off your private blog, or even out of your small community, but there will always be more where they came from. My advice? Chill, yo. Just chill.
In other news, Everwood has rekindled my love of the Butthole Surfers. Whoo! New music on my playlist. White rock/rap fusion in all it's glory. Now I want to download some songs from that white country boy Eminem adopted who's name I can't remember. And what the hell -- throw in some Insane Clown Posse. Complete the package with slow hip rolling dance moves around my room. It's nice not having a roomate.
Also, I have a few questions for the QaF obsessed. Does anyone know what song played...
in ep. 1.07 during the sex scene that was intercut with scenes of Justin's dad rifling though his room
in ep. 3.09 during the ending sex scene between Ben and Michael
in ep. 3.01 when Brian has sex with the Justin lookalike
in ep. 3.04 when Emmet is cooking in Ted's kitchen
in ep. 3.10 during the eyefuck
in ep. 3.11 during the 2nd to last club scene, when a tweaker tells Emmet that Ted went to the White Party
in ep. 3.11 during the very last club scene, when Brian re-opens the backroom with a sledgehammer
Calculus test tomorrow. *crosses fingers*
Fandom Rant -- Standards of Propriety
You know, I've never been overly concerned with discussing politics in my livejournal. For one thing, I don't like discussing politics. For another, I find myself basically preaching to the choir. This is fun sometimes, but most of the time -- I mean, what's the point?
So I don't argue politics -- at least not world politics. I can, however, argue fandom politics, because I devote more of my free time to fandom than to the real world anyway.
I spent a bit too much time on Fandom Wank this morning looking at the various kerfuffles. I realized that a lot of fandom wanks arise from people taking the wrong things seriously. Slash fic. Sexually explicit fic. Sexual fetish fic. Rape fic. Pedophilia fic. Bestiality. Bible!slash fic. People having sex with inanimate objects. Various combinations of the aforementioned. Dude -- it's the fucking internet. Of course people are bound to write about this stuff.
But consider, before you flame someone for writing something that offends you -- are you actually accomplishing anything, or are you just venting? And if you honestly want to have an author listen to you, you must realize that the instant you start calling people disgusting perverts they stop listening to you altogether. That's how it goes in fandom. Writers don't care if you tell them they're perverted. Chances are, they're just doing it for the shock value anyway. Writers don't take you seriously if you call them morally corrupt, because as far as they're concerned, what they write is fictional and has very little bearing on the real world.
And they're right, for the most part. Fanfiction really *doesn't* have much bearing on the real world. It's such a fringe thing, for one. Consider that most of the people who write rape fic don't support rape, nor do they have any desire to enact the sex scenes they write in real life. The same goes for pedophilia fic, and for bestiality fic, etc. I know that seems strange, but a lot of the people who write about Snape fucking thirteen year old Harry don't actually want to fuck thirteen year olds.
And frankly, writing is cathartic. Revealing one fantasies in writing is relatively harmless. Fantasies themselves are for the most part relatively harmless. Most people would agree that this kind of writing isn't in very good taste. Me personally, I don't give a shit either way. Free speech is a beautiful thing, as long as some psycho doesn't start thinking it's a good idea to stalk me. Highly unlikely, that.
So you can yell at people. You might manage to kick them off your private blog, or even out of your small community, but there will always be more where they came from. My advice? Chill, yo. Just chill.
In other news, Everwood has rekindled my love of the Butthole Surfers. Whoo! New music on my playlist. White rock/rap fusion in all it's glory. Now I want to download some songs from that white country boy Eminem adopted who's name I can't remember. And what the hell -- throw in some Insane Clown Posse. Complete the package with slow hip rolling dance moves around my room. It's nice not having a roomate.
Also, I have a few questions for the QaF obsessed. Does anyone know what song played...
in ep. 1.07 during the sex scene that was intercut with scenes of Justin's dad rifling though his room
in ep. 3.09 during the ending sex scene between Ben and Michael
in ep. 3.01 when Brian has sex with the Justin lookalike
in ep. 3.04 when Emmet is cooking in Ted's kitchen
in ep. 3.10 during the eyefuck
in ep. 3.11 during the 2nd to last club scene, when a tweaker tells Emmet that Ted went to the White Party
in ep. 3.11 during the very last club scene, when Brian re-opens the backroom with a sledgehammer
Calculus test tomorrow. *crosses fingers*
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QAF Songs
Date: 2004-02-25 06:07 pm (UTC)in ep. 1.07 during the sex scene that was intercut with scenes of Justin's dad rifling though his room
Little Soul by H2SO4
in ep. 3.01 when Brian has sex with the Justin lookalike
The Nothing Song by Sigur Ros
in ep. 3.04 when Emmet is cooking in Ted's kitchen
Native Love (Step by Step) by Divine
in ep. 3.10 during the eyefuck
I think you mean from ep. 307(?)
From the Inside (Junior Vasquez Mix
in ep. 3.11 during the 2nd to last club scene, when a tweaker tells Emmet that Ted went to the White Party
At the End by Iio
in ep. 3.11 during the very last club scene, when Brian re-opens the backroom with a sledgehammer
Battleflag by Lo Fidelity Allstars
I think those are all the songs you're talking about.
;-)
-Tina
Re: QAF Songs
Date: 2004-02-25 09:58 pm (UTC)<333
Re: QAF Songs
Date: 2004-02-26 09:47 am (UTC)Ok...well I never plan on having kids, but if I ever change my mind, I'll let ya know!
;-)
I'm glad I was of some help